technical help wanted...again

what can I do to get a decent photo of the Red Kite when it flies over ……as you can see I caught it but cannot see the markings or colours…..how can I compensate for this….all help gratefully received

added a couple that I have played around with….at least you can see the bird now

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12 Jun, 2011
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bonkersbon said:

Well I do know they are very partial to chicken LW and some people put roast chickens out for them on giant bird tables in their gardens.

Perhaps disguise your hide as one or dress up to tempt them closer ?

On a more serious note understand youre having a Yorkshire break soon and Harewood House nr Leeds is not far from where you will be staying.They have a group of red kites there and if still in area on Sat June 18th there is a talk and guided walk all about them.Google Harewood House Red Kites for more details.

Still worth a visit if not able to make Sat.In larger groups you should get more opportunity to see them closer as they circle for food rather than try to catch one as it flies past.

Oh and Dippers .. the River Nidd near Knaresborough is a good spot .Sorry hubby.

12 Jun, 2011
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littlewren said:

haha BB....I was thinking more along the lines of camera settings exposure etc.....but thanks for the tips...anyway
Thanks very much for the tip on Harewood...may just do that....like house and gardens too.
will certainly be looking out for the dippers.....I love Yorkshire as there is an abundance of river spots....Hoping to do the moors and coast too...fingers crossed some decent photos...

12 Jun, 2011
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phili said:

If your camera has the ability to shoot in raw format,try taking some pictures in raw,and when editing it,bring in the fill light until you can see shadow detail better.Save the file as a tiff or jpeg,and then try editing in a bit of backlight.Failing this,increase the exposure compensation a bit to get the underside detail.The sky in your pictures is a bit dark,so it will stand a couple of stops more of exposure.

12 Jun, 2011
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littlewren said:

oh my goodness Phil.....Raw....even the word frightens me....just coming to terms with the camera...but will give it a try and see what happens....thanks for the advice.Of course then I just havet to wait for the Red Kite to return....

12 Jun, 2011
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I would shoot these on the manual setting after taking a reading from the landscape view. The problem with you shooting at the sky on auto, it gives a false reading exposing for the sky. Thus making the subject too dark (under exposed)

12 Jun, 2011
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littlewren said:

thanks Alan.....will read up for manual settings...and of course practice before the Red Kite returns..thanks....

12 Jun, 2011
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welshie said:

Like you, I'm still learning about photography, but I have to say the last two photos are pretty damn good! I would be very happy with those!

12 Jun, 2011
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littlewren said:

thanks Welshie...I have taken many Red Kite photos...one day a good one I hope

13 Jun, 2011
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saucy said:

I`ve been to Harewood House and seen the Red Kites. They are magnificent.
These are brilliant shots LW - you should be proud!

13 Jun, 2011
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littlewren said:

thanks Saucy....Not so much in summer but in Winter these magnificent birds fly around our village nearly every day....hence the need to try to get a good one...

13 Jun, 2011
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johnponting said:

Alan has hit the nail yet again - the problem is under exposure of the bird because the camera based all on the larger brighter sky area.

I recently read tips of aircraft photography which suggested setting exposure adjustment to + 0.7 (Mike advocates -0.7 for more general pictures). If you set focus and metering to spot/centre and EXP +0.7 it should slightly over expose the underside of the bird just enough.

13 Jun, 2011
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littlewren said:

thanks John....will be trying that......

13 Jun, 2011
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mike said:

What a load of Rubbish LW
Firstly your photos are okay and will improve with practice.
Now the technical bit
FIRST - Catch the bird ............................

13 Jun, 2011
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johnponting said:

Don't beat about the bush Mike - say what you mean :)

13 Jun, 2011
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mike said:

Seriously though.
John and Alan are correct - looking at your pics your spot metering (I assume that is what you are using) is not picking up enough bias so you need to help it. PLUS 0.7 compensation may indeed help but try it at PLUS 1.3 and PLUS 2.0 as well. This of course is when the sun is not directly shinning on the bird from behind you. If the bird looks dark to your eyes it will be dark in the shot so compensate as above. If the bird looks bright and colourful to you when you look at it then put compensation to ZERO and it should work for you

13 Jun, 2011
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littlewren said:

OMG finding the bird is the easy bit compared to what you have just posted.....The trouble is with the Kite it can be right above you one sec and the next it is out of sight...so I struggle to even keep it in the viewfinder let alone look to see whether its light or dark...I really really appreciate all the effort you all put in trying to make me understand.....sorry I struggle to....lol I do love "Trying" to learn new things though...

13 Jun, 2011
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littlewren said:

at last I have figured out how to compensate exposure.....yippee....

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