Magpie rhyme-Originated in 1700's

The original version was more sinister in the outcome.Having searched wikipedia,the version went as follows:1 for sorrow 2 for luck,3 for wedding 4 for death!5 for silver 6 for gold 7 for a secret,never to be told.8 for heaven 9 for hell 10 for the devils own sell.

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27 Sep, 2010
Dipper
david said:

Many, Many Thanks, for posting this, Rob. Yes, I agree, that this version has much more sinister undertones than the version we are used to nowadays. I can imagine it being used to strike fear of death into very God-fearing and superstitious souls. A bit unfair on the poor magpie, though, with is lovely colouring.

This is a great addition to Birdpedia! Thank you, once again. :-))

28 Sep, 2010
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jane said:

I wasnt aware of the original version either Rob...and agree with David.Poor press for the magpies...no wonder they were persecuted ! Thank you for sharing with us...

29 Sep, 2010
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robashfield said:

No problem David,Jane,you are right,they were frowned upon.Great though that the chinese held them in high regard...Thanks again David.Finding out loads on this web site...it's great!!!!!

30 Sep, 2010
Dipper
david said:

Me, too, Rob! Also learning lots here - and the pics are works of art, themselves! :-))

1 Oct, 2010
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robashfield said:

They sure are David....keep 'em coning folks!!1

1 Oct, 2010
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jane said:

Heres one or two for David :
A belief in the power of the magpie to transform itself into human form is recorded as among the superstitions of Clunie,Perthshire,until the end of the 18th century.
In Scotland a single magpie seen near the window of a house is not just bad luck,but a sign of the impending death of one from within !!!
Scary stuff.Lol !!!

1 Oct, 2010
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robashfield said:

Very scary indeed jane! must say,have not heard that one lol! Mind you,does that not apply to the crow? Hence its full name Carrion Crow.As they are know for feeding off carcasses?

1 Oct, 2010
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jane said:

Tended to lump crows and rooks in the same bracket Rob....harbingers of doom and gloom ! I like them actually...and they are so intelligent. Did you know that they are excellent mimics too ?

1 Oct, 2010
Dipper
david said:

They are new to me, Jane. :-)) But have heard that crows and rooks can mimic other birds or sounds, like blackbirds.

1 Oct, 2010
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jane said:

Once David..a few years back..a friend of mine took in some young rooks..casualties of a tree felling at fledging time. Raised in her front room it was not long before these babies were calling out for chips and mimicking the phone ringing !! I kid you not !!

2 Oct, 2010
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robashfield said:

I used to as well jane,but after watching them and photographing them,you can see the difference.As for mimicking other birds..I found this out last year.I was ,as usual, walking my dog,and I heard the call of the robin(having heard this in my garden,and it was the only one i knew!!) I thought I would get a photo.After keeping still and listening for where the call was coming from,you can imagine my surprise when I looked up into the tree and seen a crow sitting high in the tree singing away like a robin!! Never under-estimate the intelligence of birds!! lol

2 Oct, 2010
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jane said:

Lol Rob...I rest my case ! I can just imagine the scene !! Living next door to a rookery I wonder how many times this has happened to me without ever realising it ! Lol

3 Oct, 2010
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jane said:

Another good one Rob..In native American myth the magpie is seen as the ally and helper of humans ! Good..we need all the help we can get ! Lol......

4 Oct, 2010
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robashfield said:

Jane,you really are getting into this now lol!!!

5 Oct, 2010
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jane said:

I am Rob...Lol.Koreans have the Magpie as their National bird !!!!

20 Oct, 2010
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dodo said:

Mmmm wonder which side of the folk lore they have come down on! lol!

9 Dec, 2010
Cullyd
simplylyn said:

Thanks robashfield for comment.
Also, how interesting this lot of info about the beautiful Magpie and not a mention of its thieving habits! With regard to birds that mimic - have you ever read "Barnaby Rudge" by Dickens? I recently ploughed through it again and admired the cheeky Raven. Great story.
You have some lovely photos!

9 Dec, 2010
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robashfield said:

No I haven't simplylyn...thanks for taking time to read my blog.

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